Googe+messenger+session+with+Juia+Oreshnikova

16 April Study entry interview: google messenger (part 1) + skype messenger (part 2) Hello, Julia! Saw that you are on line and decided to drop a line to see how you are doing Sent at 5:57 PM on Wednesday Julia : hello! I have never used google talk before=) I've just returned home, thinking about dinner meal...but only thinking) lazy girl! me: I've never used it before coming to England but from here sometimes I do because you see all people's status Sent at 6:25 PM on Wednesday me: Well, I was not doing much yesterday. I returned from a very big conference Sun where I made a presentation and felt I deserve some rest only there are so many things to do that I can't really afford it. Sent at 6:26 PM on Wednesday me: I read your essay! Actually I read it before I sent you the message 2 days ago was it? I rather liked it Would like to discuss your writing experience with you. Do you skype? Julia: how was the conference itself? useful? Well...I have a skype account, but practically never use it me: It's the biggest inter-l conference for teachers of Eng in Europe. It is fantastic and very good. I went last year too as a roving reporter but this year I made my own presentation and we made a group presentation too It was very-very rewarding. Sent at 6:30 PM on Wednesday me: Are you thinking about writing another essay for my project and working with the other girls peer-editing them? What do you think? Sent at 6:32 PM on Wednesday Julia: Of course I am thinking and willing to write. What are the themes for the next essay? me: I have posted the suggestions in the wiki but if it's easier for you I can send them to you in email too sorry clicked on enter before finishing Shall I email? And one more thing... Have you chosen whether you want to write your essay in Word, wiki or blog? Julia : well, if you have the document with the themes already, please do if not, don't bother writing, I would have a look myself)*d me: I'll just copy them from the wiki page. It's not a problem. I'll do it right away Julia : Have the other two girls chosen? Sent at 6:41 PM on Wednesday me: One is doing it in Word, she sent her essay to the others today. But I haven't heard from the other two yet.Sent at 6:42 PM on Wednesday me: I can send you the one I got today to you too but I want first to make sure it's OK with Olga, the student whose essay it is. the thing is they don't know yet that there is another person participating. I thought I'd tell them when I know for sure you are going to participate. Is it OK? I hop u don't mind:) Sent at 6:44 PM on Wednesday me: How shall I introduce you to them? You have your page on Ning of course but maybe you wanted to add smth.? Sent at 6:47 PM on Wednesday me: Something I've never asked you actually is what year of study you are in and at what department. Sorry! I just have so many things going that sometimes forget things. Sent at 6:49 PM on Wednesday Julia : and how did you introduce them to each other when that took place?)I'm a third year student in higher school of economics public administration department Sent at 7:16 PM on Wednesday Julia : and I will specialize in urban studies starting from next year Sent at 7:17 PM on Wednesday Julia : oh, sorry for misprints!)I'm starting to loose attention as the night is coming))) Sent at 7:19 PM on Wednesday me: The other students are all from the same department in the university in Novosibirsk where I teach, actually two of them study in the same groupIf you go to Ning, you can see their posts and pictures there: Natalya Shulga, Nastya Venschikova and Olga Kuvshinova Sent at 7:21 PM on Wednesday me: How long have you been studying Eng for? Did you or do you have a separate academic writing class or is it part of your general Eng course? How many hours of Eng a week do you have? Julia : ok. If Olga is already working in Word, what sphere would you recommend me to choose? I have been learning english for 12 years or so Sent at 7:23 PM on Wednesday Julia : Never had any special courses. However, all my teachers have always paid attention to the writing now I have only a session once a week me: I'm prejudiced:) I think that wikis are great but blogs are good too. They are somewhat different in terms of how you can make your comments in them. It's important in this case Julia : week me: because this is what the focus of my study is Julia : with Natalia Katasonova) me: to see what opportunities for feedback different media give and what their advantages and disadvantages are Julia : well...maybe wiki then? me: I know that your teacher is Natalia Katasonova:) Julia : because we are working with wikis with Natalia) she is my teacher just for a year, unfortunately and we are going to have an exam in two weeks and that would be all for the English classes in this academic year Sent at 7:27 PM on Wednesday me: Your first essay is quite good. It has a good structure and is quite consistent. We'll discuss it later. Can't do it right now because of the conditions of my study. But when we finish I'm ready and will discuss it with you and of course make some suggestions about how you can further improve your writing. Does it sound good to you? Do you have some favourite things to do with English? Julia : I'm watching films and reading books in the original! that's what I really love. me: like for me apart from everything else, crossword puzzles and word games are such. Me too! I have a great collection of videos and DVDs More than 250. Julia : It sounds excellent to me about the feedback on my writing) me: But now of course you can watch a lot of things on YouTube. Do you? Julia : I'm planning to pass CAE or even CPE one day...and these exams always have a written part. so...very important for me to get a feedback!) me: Who are your favourite writers? I assume you read in English not only for your classes judging from what you've said before. Julia : or download a lot of things) from torrents) Well...I get used to reading on original Sent at 7:32 PM on Wednesday me: I'm posting a cute little story in the Ning written by Finch O'Connell, a writer, I met at the conference about Contemporary Britlit dragon in my blog. Read it when you have time and post a comment. I'm curious about what other ning members think about it:) Julia did not receive your chat. Julia : Seems there are some problems with chats. Did you get my messages? or download a lot of things) from torrents) Well...I get used to reading on original from my school years the best thing my teachers gave me at school was love to the literature, I guessю me: Yes, I do but one of mine didn't get to you i'm not sure. Julia : When I was at school I participated in reading marathon handled by British Council Moscow me: Did u get this one? I'm posting a cute little story in the Ning written by Finch O'Connell, a writer, I met at the conference about Contemporary Britlit dragon in my blog. Read it when you have time and post a comment. I'm curious about what other ning members think about it:) Julia : and only in the maraphone read about 20 books or so didn't get this message) ok, I will read I'm planning to read Dreiser in the original. I haven't started yet but already bought a book everyone say I'm mad because his language is complicated. me: have u read any contemp stories or novels? Yes, Dreiser's is complicated but this is what makes it more interesting to read, isn't it? Why him? Julia: did not receive your chat. Depends on what you mean by contemp=) contemporary?)) Because his novels made a lot of noise))) me: contemporary means the last 20 or 25 years or so. Julia : hm... I prefer classic for now me: Earlier period is referred to as modern. I see this is something we can discuss in the Ning I think it's a very interesting question for discussion that's why i'm posting this story there Sent at 7:42 PM on Wednesday me: I've just sent you a message with ideas for essay topics and the context in which you should put it Julia : I have already got it) Thanks! Sent at 7:45 PM on Wednesday me: Wonders of modern communication:) But wait it's about 11 pm in Moscow, right? I'd better let you go for now:) How do you like the messenger in google? Please let me know what your skype nick is. I'll need to talk with you via skype too. Sent at 7:47 PM on Wednesday Julia : Yeah, I am already thinking about going to bed) Every day I promise myself to start going to sleep earlierbut most of the time can't help chatting) me: same here:) Julia : I have already got an idea of the article, I guess=) what is the word limit and am I responsible for wikis from now on? me: Great! I don't like flattering people but would this time. let's agree then you work in a wiki. Shall I start a page for you or you want to do it yourself?I invited you to join, didn't I? Julia : Myself=) you did Sent at 7:53 PM on Wednesday me: Great! Did you accept it? Because on the users' page your email is marked as unverified which means you haven't completed joining Julia : I haven't yet, but certainly will do it, don't even worry) me: So, for a bit of flattery:) I'd love to have more such enthusiastic students:))) They are so much more fun to work with! Sent at 7:55 PM on Wednesday Julia : ahah)))) And I'm sitting and waiting for the complements!!!) )))) me: I'd be glad to give you my feedback on your writing after we finish (just not to interfere with the study design) and of course you can ask me questions or I don’t' know what else when you want:) Julia : thanks a lot! but enthusiastic students are sometimes lazy, make mistakes and are in bad mood too!) me: What kind of films do you like? Julia : Sometime ago I was mad about art house everything not ordinary and so on and so force Now I watch mainstream too. me: so forth:) Julia : just to relax okay) force) oh forth) me: I like all sorts but prefer dramas and musicals have watched some of my favourites more than 100 times i am not exaggerating this time (some time I do) Юлия: And I do love films with Audrey Hepburn, Bridgette Bardot musicals!! yeeeees me: Audrey Hepburn? You must be kidding!!! She IS my favourite!!!! Julia : I nave recently watched **All songs are about love** originally it is a french musical me: Now I know why you have joined my study:) What is it? Julia : and about...about not traditionally orientered men or how to say it correctly) me: I'll look it up o the internet Julia : but still quite nice) songs are great) I have even downloaded an OST) and about Audry...I don't know if it possible not to love her me: Can't say because I do:) Julia : How do you feel abot Audry 's Funny Face? me: what is OST? Julia : also a musical=) Original Sound track!) me: Funny face was the first one I watched with her and fell in love with her acting Julia : I watched Breakfast at Tiffany's first but prefer Funny Face to all of her works=) me: Another great one:) But my most favourite is My fait lady Julia : yeah, it's also great! I had a kind of mania one day sat down and watched ALL of her films in several days) Audry's weekends=) me: I had a similar experience too amazing coincidence! Julia : I have forgotten to tell you about another coincidence!)about my laptop and coffee=)))) me: You must be kidding! Julia : no, no. no) The most surprising is that my laptop is still alive as is yours) me: I was so upset today to find out that the company on campus which was supposed to replace my keyboard has closed down Julia : they told me the chance for recovery was not high in the service)because all the brains are under the keyboard!) me: I have one problem the key for l doesn't work and I have to cut and paste it from Word. Very inconvenient as u can imagine Julia : I can) me: yes that said the same to me but Sent at 8:11 PM on Wednesday Julia : but everything turned to be all right! I love happy endings) me: great! Sent at 8:14 PM on Wednesday Julia : But for now...I would rather go to prepare myself for a sleep. Would it be okay?))) me: Yes this is what i was going to suggest it's getting late for you and I have quite a few things to do too But it was great to chat with you here You did nt give me your skype ID do you have one? I wish you sweet dreams and a good day tomorrow looking forward to more discussions with you Julia : I have forgotten) If I remember rightthe nickname is my_name_is_juli a skype finds by nickname, doesn't it?) me: yes, but by email too i think let me check quicklySent at 8:20 PM on Wednesday me: yes there is such but you can'r imagine how many similar ones there areSent at 8:21 PM on Wednesday Julia : stereotyped way of thinking=) Good night for you too then? me: Good night to you! But not to me yet! I've sent you an invitation to add me to your skype list of contacts. Julia : Then a bit of luck today's evening! and the whole day of tomorrow=) I will accept it tomorrow=) me: you are so kind thanks. Good night!!!

17 April

me: Julia, hello! how are you? Busy day? Have you heard in the news about the volcano erruption in Iceland and what happened as a result with all the flights from and to Britain as well as many other countries in Europe? Sent at 7:04 PM on Friday Julia: Hi there! Oh, I am going mad with my paper work on urban studies. just started, today is the deadline. minimum 14 pages about city's ecology seems to be what I am doing the whole night today=) I've heard about volcano! because my mam nearly stayed in Finland at Thuesdaybut managed to come back me: Hmm. Sounds familiar! Julia: after her flight all others from helsinki ti moscow were cancelled=)me: Yes, this is waht i was typing Sent at 7:11 PM on Friday Julia: sounds familiar to do everything in the last moment?))) me: I'm writing to Olga Kuvshinova about you and wanted to add some information about when approx you are going to post your essay draft in the wiki. Any idea?Yes, I am a student now myself. :( Julia: hm...what's our official deadline for the first draft?me: Actually, smth strange is happening to me as a student. I start doing things in advance and then... Sent at 7:13 PM on Friday me: I planned that during this week you'll post your draft and also make comments on the works of the other 2 students. So far what we have is Olga's work Julia: Well...enjoy that you are a student again!))) I would really-really love to continue my own education abroad one daybut since I am planning to have a large family,,,I would need some short-stay program)but I do want to know how it's like to study somewhere in Europe...my dream from childhood!) me: The other 2 students are not responding... I have no idea at the moment how to go about it, so if there is any chance you could first have a look at Olga's work and give her your comments and then maybe over the weekend write and post your essay draft in the wiki?you wantv to have a large family?Really?Not a very common wish these days but very honourable. Sent at 7:17 PM on Friday me: We can discuss studying in Europe and the US when you have time later maybe. Actually, smth to start with (again if youm have time) is a blog I have on british council's web-site I made some postings there about my experiences as a student in the UK but not very many because of a lack of time still i think there are some interesting things judging from the comments people made, so you can start there and then we can discuss it more Sent at 7:20 PM on Friday Julia: I would like to have 3 children!))) or maybe two but not less!) Ok...let's then fix it that way: I will write my own and comment on Olga's on Sundayor at least on Monday morning. will it go&)?) me: 3 children! Great!Yes, if you do it Sun and or Mn, it'd be great! Sent at 7:30 PM on Friday Julia: My boyfriend luckily shares my opinion about children) that the most amazing! because he is o boy. and man...they are...less sensetive to chilren. at least I have always thought so=)then I will)me: By the way, I just remembered that on my Ning u are a member of there is a clip I made back in Jan when it was cold here acc to British standard. You can have a look at it and... comment on it if you wish, which would be great. Just a couple of lines about whether you like it or not and have any questions.Wow! It's just great you boyfriend shares your opinion about children: it's rather rare, isn't it?When are you planning to start:)? Julia: He is a rare exemplar) has two brothers and a sister himself)and still love children!)me: It's just great! Julia: oh my God!) no startings before graduating from the university!)already agreed)))me: :)It's wonderful i think that you are discussing it. Not a very common thing to do either I thinkDo u want boys or girls more? What about your boyfriend? What's his name btw? Julia: Aleksander)me: :) Julia: I wanted to post our photo together on ning. and even got his permitionbut Natalia Katasonova is teaching both of usand we do not make the reletionships official when we are in university))) me: I see. Pity. It'd be lovely to have a photo of both of you. Julia: I would really like to have sons! perhaps, becuase in our famaly there are only girls-girls-gir ls)but Alex thinks it's...hm...ugl y to say you want a daughter or a son because children are great anyway,etc.I fully agree but still wish to be a mother of a son one day=) me: Surprise! Same with me:) I have a sister and had a cat whose picture you can see on the Ning. All girls. My father always jokes about being in a female state. And of course i should mention my niece, which makes 4 women for 1 man. Sent at 7:41 PM on Friday me: Well in the end i think it doesn't matter. Children are just children you can't choose. Actually I wouldn't like to choose even thougth it's possible nowafays Julia: I wouldn't either! for sure)Alex's dad wanted a daughter...they planned two timesand two mistakes - misha and ryslan) me: :)"mistakes" you mean Julia: yes) google transfered my quotation marks automatically=) me: Julia, can we agree that when you have read Olga's essay and commented on it you will send the file to her and to me? Julia: I thought we agreed about it yesterday)or the day before yesterday?)))me: Sorry, I forgot! "Olga Kuvshinova"  It was yesterday. The thing is i have so many things to remember that i sometimes forget, sorry! Sent at 7:47 PM on Friday Julia: it's ok, do not mind) I forget a lot of things either, so it's anyway good that you have reminded me!me: :)So is your paper due tomorrow? Sorry for asking but I'm concerned that we're chatting with you and thus you are not working on your paper. Sent at 7:51 PM on Friday Julia: it is. but I hope that our tutor would let me send it by e-mail until tomorrow's night=)I know he would so feel a bit relaxed nowbut that a pity I'm so lazy! because the topic is not difficultme: do they observe the deadlines strictly? Julia: only ecological problems of a citymost teachers dobut only at first=)))) then they begin to know us, let us pass some papers a little bit later than it was fixed... me: Here, it's very-very strict. You should submit your work electronically to the anti-plaiarism service first and then in person not l8 thab 4 pm on the day of the submission. If you do it even only 5 min l8er, points will be taken off of your grade. They take no excuses. Julia: but even if you're late with your work...well the worst is if you loose some points out of the total markme: I keep thinking that if we had similar conditions, at least at my university we could end up having nobody to teach, I'm afraid. Julia: oh...we also have it...this anti-plagiat!)) )) me: What system is used? Do u know? Julia: the internal system of higher school of economics me: I see. Is it reliable? Julia: but if you want to ckeck your work for originality yourselfme: Can I access it to have a look? Julia: you can easily check by www.antiplagiat .ru me: The thing is that I'm writing one of my assignments about how to teach students about plagiarism and having a look at such system'd be very helpful. I see Julia: but it is not that reliable me: Do you know if it's free of charge?I think it's not. My uni doesn't have it Julia: because as I understand it...it searches only among the works that are already in the internetme: What's the students' attitude to plagiarism? Julia: while the university's internal system seeks among the works of the previous years students too me: Are they afraid of doing it? What happens if they plagiarise? Julia: well...in our university we got used to itand hardly ever cheat with the works me: Does it mean students don't try to do it anymore? Wow! Julia: but in other universities plagiarise is flourishing, I must say) me: Do you have anybody explain to you what plagiarism is and so owhat you need to do not plagiarise? Julia: we sometimes have some accidents...for example, not so far ago one girl pasted ONE sentance from wikipedia me: and what happened? Julia: and did not refer to the sourceand she got insatisfactoryfor the whole course me: but wikipedia is not generally acceptable as a source to use in your papers Julia: so we are...a bit afraid to cheat, you know=) but still wikipedia can be used if we are to get some general information me: it's good as a starting point for you to get an idea about some issues associated with your topic but you can't really use it in academic papers. Julia: for example, I used it to fing a brief history of Rome not so long agorefered to wikipediaand it was okey me: Well, we are really afraid too because here they have a very powerful system and a punishment for plagirising can be as bad as a person being expelled from the university.Well, in Russia it's still often differerent from what they consider acceptable here. Not to say that in many cases students have no idea about what it is and so on Julia: in Russia it's not a general practiceand used only in HSE as far as I am concernedand even this experience was for sure borrowed from european or american universitiesbut i'm pretty sure that one day it will work))) me: There are prob some other universities where they use anti-plag software but not many i'm afraid. Julia: that's what I'm talking about too, unfortunately) me: I hope so because it's so disgusting accusing a student of doing it and then him/her denying it. Sent at 8:11 PM on Friday me: I had some almost anecdotal cases when students plagiarised and when I showed them they did they denied by saying they have no internet connection, don't use computers and so on. Once i spotted a work a student submitted on some papermill site. She said she has no idea how her work got there, though it was the other way round Sent at 8:14 PM on Friday Julia: ))) we've once did 5 similar summaries and passed it to the same teacher) it was in the previous year) we were asked to make summaries of 5 articlesand beeing wise decided to break it into 5 parts) one article for a studentbut no one told us we were to pass them)))but when the teacher strted to collect workswe have no other choicesurprisingly, evebody out of 5 got 20 out of 20 in the end)but it was confusing me: to pass them? do you mean to submit them to her? Julia: and I do not really thing she was reading itmaybe just looked through... me: do you mean you copied them fro each other?from* Julia: we did 1 article each and then shared it=)))) Sent at 8:21 PM on Friday me: Ай-яй-яй. And she didn't say anything?I've written to Olga that you'll post your essay draft in the wiki sun or Mn and will also send her commented essay draft during the same time. Is this all right? Sent at 8:22 PM on Friday Julia: yes, it is)))the teacher didn't...but we were all so ashamed afterwards me: Thanks. You must be very good people then:) Sent at 8:26 PM on Friday Julia: perhaps we are now would you excuse me if I go to write my paper?) Sent at 8:33 PM on Friday me: yes, yes yes!!! Please, go! Wish you good luck with it! Sent at 8:35 PM on Friday Julia: thanks! and good luck to you too with all you initiatives!;)and good night of course)me: thanks! hope you manage to finish yuour paper!!! Good luck!

19 April Julia: hello to you again! A have posted an essay on wiki;) It's already late, so if you don't mind, comments to Olga would be tomorrow as soon as I wake up)Sent at 9:29 PM on Monday me: Hello, thanks I've just received a notification that you have posted your essay!Sent at 9:31 PM on Monday me: Thanks a lot! I'll send Olga a message so that she would read your essay and post her comments to it in the wiki. There is an option to be notified about changes made to itSent at 9:35 PM on Monday me: Which you can choose and thus will know that smth new has been added to the wiki Ju lia : okey) me: I'll go to the wiki and see how to do it because i forgot and will send you a message Ju lia : sounds good)Sent at 9:38 PM on Monday me: OK, this is what you need to do: go to [|https://my.pbwo rks.com/] there is an option notofocationcan you check if it works with you. I mean I have this option because I am the administrator and you are a writer Ju lia : and how can I ckeck?Sent at 9:46 PM on Monday me: go to the link i pasted and see what you see there this one above Ju lia : I had and saw the notification option me: great so just tick it and then you can know when smb changes it Ju lia : but there had been a click on the **enable notification** already Sent at 9:49 PM on Monday Ju lia : Can we please continue our disscussion tomorrow?it's late in moscow and morover I don't feel myself very well) Sent at 9:52 PM on Monday me: Julia-- as I said already your task is to comment the way you think you'll be able to help your peer the most. You can choose to comment everything one way or in a number of different ways This is what we'll discuss at the end of the study. For now you should try to comment and maybe keep some notes but if you think keeping notes is too much then just make your comments